According to a tradition first written down by the Jewish historian Josephus (c. AD 93–94), the righteous descendants of Seth were the inventors of astronomy — "that peculiar sort of wisdom which is concerned with the heavenly bodies, and their order" — and, warned by Adam's prophecy that the world would be destroyed once by fire and once by water, they inscribed their discoveries on two pillars, one of brick and one of stone, so that whichever catastrophe came, the knowledge would survive. The stone pillar, Josephus adds, still stood "in the land of Siriad" in his own day. This page follows that legend of antediluvian wisdom preserved through the Flood — where it came from, and what later readers made of it.
The interest of the story is that it is a pious counter-aetiology of astronomy. The very celestial science that one ancient stream — the Watcher tradition of 1 Enoch 8, taken up by Tatian and Tertullian — blamed on the rebel angels who "taught" it to enslave mankind, this tradition credits instead to the holy line of Seth, discovering it by their own virtue.1 The same knowledge, two origins — impious revelation or righteous discovery — and this legend supplies the righteous half of the pair (weighed on the astrology timeline's fallen-angels argument). It also sits at the crossroads of two further doctrines: it is a knowledge-survives-the-deluge motif, tied to Noah's Flood; and it belongs to the wider lore of the antediluvian sages — with Enoch the seventh from Adam — that runs through the sons of God and the Nephilim.2 That dignifying of Seth's posterity as the righteous race is itself older than the legend: a generation before Josephus, Philo of Alexandria (early 1st c.) already made Seth the "author" of the race of "those who love virtue and piety" — the virtuous line "enlarged" down through Noah, Abraham, and Moses. But Philo's Seth is pure moral allegory: no two pillars, no astronomy, no antediluvian discoveries carried through the Flood. The knowledge-preserving legend this page follows is Josephus's addition, not Philo's — so Philo attests the theme the legend presupposes, not the legend itself.3
Related doctrines: Astrology and the heavens — see also Astrology and the Stars · The Living Heavens (are the stars themselves alive?)
Listed earliest first. Josephus is the earliest datable witness to the legend in the form the later tradition received. From him it passed not through the doctrinal Fathers — who preserve no pious Sethite-pillars form of it, though the underlying motif of antediluvian knowledge surviving the Flood on inscribed stone does surface among them in its impious mirror (John Cassian's Ham smuggling the forbidden arts past the Flood on plates of metal and hard rock, c. 435) and in the Watchers-as-originators strand of Christian chronography (Panodorus via Syncellus)1 — but through the chronicles and Bible-histories, along two branches that part ways just where they meet in time. On the Greek/Byzantine side the pious Sethite form was kept whole: George Syncellus's Chronography (c. 810) — the single conduit for the legend's closest pagan cognates, the Egyptian Seiriadic columns of Hermes and the Babylonian Sippar tablets — and George Kedrenos's Synopsis Historion (c. 1050), which still credits Seth himself with the planets, the two pillars, and the invention of writing. In the Latin West — Isidore of Seville's Chronica (c. 620), Peter Comestor's Historia Scholastica (c. 1170), and Ranulf Higden's Polychronicon (c. 1350) — the legend instead drifted: Josephus's righteous line of Seth became, with Comestor, the Cainite musician Jubal, so that what the medieval West often received under the story's name were the pillars of Cain's line. The very century that produced Kedrenos's Sethite pillars produced Comestor's Cainite ones. The story's crossroads with the origin of astronomy, the Flood, and the antediluvian sages are noted above.
Josephus gives the legend its classic form in the Antiquities of the Jews (I.2.3). Seth's posterity, virtuous men, "were the inventors of that peculiar sort of wisdom which is concerned with the heavenly bodies, and their order"; and foreseeing on "Adam's prediction that the world was to be destroyed at one time by the force of fire, and at another time by the violence and quantity of water, they made two pillars, the one of brick, the other of stone," inscribing their discoveries on both so that one would outlast whichever destruction came — the stone pillar, he reports, still "remains in the land of Siriad to this day."4
Josephus himself preserves, elsewhere in the same book, the rival account of celestial knowledge — the "many angels of God" who consorted with women and begat unjust giants (I.3.1) — so the two origins of astronomy, the Sethite and the angelic, sit side by side in his own text (his angelic passage is treated on the Nephilim timeline).5
Isidore carries the legend into the Latin West. His universal chronicle, the Chronica, reports "as Josephus reports, some men, who knew that they were about to die by either fire or water, inscribed their discoveries on two columns made of brick and stone," the stone columns said to "remain in Syria to this very day." Isidore tells it generically, of "some men," and lodges it one entry below his notice of the Cainite Jubal, "from the line of Cain," inventor of music before the flood — the two ingredients a later hand would fuse. (The legend is not in his better-known Etymologies, which carries only the Cainite-music note.)6
George Syncellus, a monk of Constantinople, carries the legend into the Greek/Byzantine chronicle-tradition — and his Chronography is the single conduit through which the two closest pagan cognates of the pillars story survive. He alone preserves the Egyptian fragment of the (pseudo-Manethonian) Book of Sothis, whose sacred antediluvian knowledge was inscribed "upon the columns set up in the Seriadic land, by Thoth, the first Hermes," and re-transcribed after the deluge — the same region-name (Josephus's "land of Siriad") and the same before-and-after-the-Flood logic; and he alone preserves Berossus's Babylonian parallel, the antediluvian writings buried at Sippar before the flood and dug up after. The independent Egyptian and Babylonian analogues on which the pillars tradition leans thus both reach us through this one ninth-century monk. Syncellus also heads the Byzantine line that kept the pious Sethite notices — Seth naming the planets and raising the two pillars — given in full by George Kedrenos; and (on the Nephilim timeline) he transcribes the impious mirror, the Watchers who "taught" astronomy, so his chronicle holds both origins of celestial knowledge this doctrine sets against each other.7
George Kedrenos (Latin Cedrenus) gives the legend its fullest surviving Greek form — and gives it, pointedly, back to Seth himself. In the primeval-history opening of his Synopsis Historion, "Seth gave names to the seven planets, and comprehended the lore of the movements of the heavens. He also prepared two pillars, one of stone and one of brick, and wrote these things upon them… He also devised the Hebrew letters." Where Josephus credits Seth's posterity collectively and Isidore tells it of "some men," Kedrenos names Seth as discoverer, planet-namer, pillar-builder, and inventor of the alphabet. He writes a little before the Latin Comestor would reassign the same pillars to the Cainite Jubal — so the Greek branch preserved the pious Sethite legend at the very moment the Latin branch was recasting it as the pillars of Cain's line.8
Peter Comestor's Historia Scholastica — the "school Bible" of the medieval West, surviving in some 800 manuscripts and the great conduit for Josephus's material — retells the pillars and cites Josephus by name, yet makes the decisive change: he ascribes them not to Seth's line but to the Cainite musician Jubal. "He wrote it on two columns, the whole of it on each, as Josephus says — one of marble, the other of brick — of which the one would not be washed away by the flood, the other not dissolved by fire." With Comestor the pillars of Seth become, in the West, the pillars of Cain's line.9
Ranulf Higden's Polychronicon — Englished by John Trevisa in 1387 — carries both forms. Its main text keeps the plain Josephan version, "men" who foresaw fire and flood and "closede hem in tweie greet pileres i-made of marbyl and of brend tyle"; but in the chapter on Jubal several manuscripts splice in Comestor's Cainite retelling verbatim. The one chronicle thus documents the legend's two streams — the older generic/Sethite and the medieval Latin Cainite — and it is the Polychronicon that the later Masonic "Old Charges" (the Cooke MS) would quarry.10
Six source-critical questions about where the pillars legend came from and how far to trust it: whether its fire-and-water framing was already an ancient tradition, whether Josephus's specific report (Antiquities I.2.3) is reliable history, whether the Sethite legend is, at bottom, a recasting of the older Enoch tradition, whether it is the pious inversion of an older impious mirror — the Watchers' illicit astronomy, carved on stone and surviving the Flood, whose recovery is a sin — whether the medieval Arab-Coptic legend of the pyramid-building king Surid is a later branch of the same motif, and whether the 2nd–3rd-century Sethian-Gnostic corpus reworks the same Seth-and-saving-knowledge complex.
Is Josephus's pillars-of-Seth report historical? weighs the two objections William Whiston attached to his own translation: that Josephus confused Seth son of Adam with the pharaoh Sesostris, the actual erector of a pillar "in the land of Siriad," and that no stone pillar could have survived a world-covering flood. The verdict is contested, on a split the story itself invites. As a tradition — antediluvian discoveries kept through catastrophe on paired durable pillars — the legend is genuinely ancient and coherent, with independent Babylonian (Berossus) and Egyptian (Manetho / the Hermetic Book of Sothis) analogues; but Josephus's specific report, that the very Sethite stone pillar still stood in his day, is weak — it certifies an unseen monument that matches the Egyptian Hermes-stelae far better than the Sethite frame, and its survival-logic strains against the universal Flood the tradition presupposes. Whiston's headline objection nonetheless misfires: the Seth-for-Sesostris conflation rests on reading Josephus's Seiris as "Syria" (it denotes Egypt, land of the Sirius-worshippers) and on Herodotus's separately-misidentified Sesostris stelae, so the alleged confusion is Whiston's inference, not Josephus's blunder.11
Is the pillars-of-Seth legend a displaced Enoch tradition? asks whether Josephus's story is, at bottom, an Enoch tradition wearing Seth's name. The roles Josephus gives the Sethites — discovering the science of the heavenly bodies, writing it down, and inscribing it on two durable media so it survives the coming destructions by fire and water — are the very roles Jewish lore reserves for Enoch, "the seventh from Adam": Jubilees 4:17 makes him the first man to learn writing and record "the signs of heaven," the earliest datable witness — the Samaritan Pseudo-Eupolemus (c. 200–150 BC, preserved by Eusebius) — already credits Enoch with the discovery of astronomy itself ("he, and not the Egyptians, had first invented astrology"), the Astronomical Book of 1 Enoch (72–82) has Uriel reveal him the calendar, and the closest formal parallel — the sage inscribing his knowledge on marble and brick against fire and flood — is told of Enoch himself in the Byzantine Palaea Historica. The verdict is plausible. The narrow point is sound and mainstream: the pillars story's roles are Enochic, and the pious counter-aetiology this page follows is, in substance, Enoch's. But that the Sethite legend is specifically a displacement of a prior Enochic pillars-story does not clearly beat the reading that an independently ancient virtuous-Seth theme (Philo) and a non-Enochic Egyptian/Babylonian stele-tradition (Manetho, Berossus) were equally in play — parallel branches of one antediluvian-sage complex, cross-pollinating. And the named "pillars of Enoch" is a late Masonic back-formation (Anderson, 1723), not ancient attestation.12
Is the fire-and-water double-destruction an ancient tradition? tests William Whiston's note that the expectation of a world destroyed once by fire and once by water — the premise the whole legend hangs on — is not Josephus's invention but "an ancient tradition, which all antiquity witnesses." The verdict is sound. The twofold-catastrophe pattern is attested independently across three streams that do not derive from Josephus: Plato presents it as old Egyptian priestly lore (Timaeus 22c: "the greatest [destructions] are by fire and water"); Berossus and the Stoics fix it as the great-year cycle of ekpyrosis and kataklysmos; and the first-century Jewish Life of Adam and Eve supplies the closest parallel of all — Seth inscribing the family testament on paired tablets of stone and clay against a judgment "first by water and second by fire," each medium chosen to outlast the catastrophe the other cannot. So Josephus inherited the legend's framing rather than fabricating it. Two limits hold the finding to its scope: it certifies the framing, not Josephus's separate report that a real Sethite pillar still stood (weighed on the historicity page); and Whiston's further move — that Adam himself foretold the two destructions — is the legend's narrative dress, not part of what "all antiquity witnesses."13
Is the pillars-of-Seth legend the pious inversion of the Watchers' antediluvian astrology? asks whether the pious device — celestial knowledge carved on stone, surviving the Flood, recovered afterward — is an inversion of an older impious mirror. It is: Jubilees 8 tells the same stone-and-Flood story of the Watchers' illicit astronomy, whose post-flood recovery by the second Cainan is a sin ("he transcribed it and sinned owing to it; for it contained the teaching of the Watchers… the omens of the sun and moon and stars"), not a rescue — and that impious telling (Jubilees, 2nd c. BC) is roughly two centuries older than Josephus's pious one. The verdict is plausible. The descriptive parallel is sound — the summary's "impious revelation vs. righteous discovery" pairing is realized in a shared physical device with a fixed order, impious first — and later tradition (the medieval Sefer ha-Yashar) even collapses the two Cainans into one stone-inscribing sage. But the stronger claim, that Josephus's legend is a pious inversion of the Cainan-stone tradition, is underdetermined: the mirror is partial (Cainan merely finds the stone; he designs no dual-catastrophe archive), and a shared motif does not prove dependence — the same limit the Enochic-displacement thesis meets, of which this is the dark twin.14
Is the Surid pyramid-legend a cognate of the Sethite antediluvian-pillars tradition? tracks the motif a millennium downstream, into the medieval Arab-Coptic legend of King Surid — an antediluvian Egyptian king who, warned by a dream of the earth overturning and the stars falling and by his priests' verdict that "a deluge would occur after which would appear a fire out of the constellation Leo," builds the pyramids of Giza as a catastrophe-proof archive and has "all the sciences familiar to the Egyptians" engraved on their walls. The verdict is sound as a cognate claim. The legend is the same motif on three joints: its skeleton is Josephus's (celestial foreknowledge → inscription on durable stone → survival of a doubled fire-and-water destruction), its builder is repeatedly equated with the Hermes = Idris = Enoch of the parallel traditions, and the name "Surid" descends from Manetho's Souphis (Khufu) — the same Egyptian material behind the Hermetic Seiriadic columns. So it is a fourth independent, and unusually durable and cross-confessional, witness to the motif, reinforcing the historicity page's finding. What does not follow is a direct descent from Josephus: the Arab sources cite no Josephus and most plausibly converge on the shared motif out of native Egyptian, Hermetic, and Islamic-Enochic strands rather than copying the Antiquities.15
Is the Sethian-Gnostic Seth tradition a cognate of the antediluvian-pillars legend? follows the motif not sideways into Egyptian pyramid-lore but upward, into the 2nd–3rd-century Sethian Gnostic corpus — a body of texts built entirely around Seth as heavenly savior and progenitor of the elect "unshakable race." The verdict is sound as a cognate / reception claim. The whole complex is there: the Apocalypse of Adam runs the seed of Seth through destruction by water (Noah, renamed "Deucalion") and then by "fire and sulphur and asphalt," from which the light-bringers rescue them; the Gospel of the Egyptians has Seth hide "the book which the great Seth wrote" on Mount Charaxio to come forth "at the end of the times and the eras," the race passing through "the flood, and the conflagration, and the judgment"; and in the Three Steles of Seth the reworking is explicit — the two tablets of stone and brick against fire and flood have become three inscribed steles of doxological hymns, a transformation its standard editor John D. Turner ties to Josephus's Antiquities (I.67–71) by name. So it is a fifth — and earliest — independent branch of the motif, alive in Greco-Egyptian Gnosticism within a century of Josephus. What does not follow is a direct textual dependence on Josephus: the two-tablets motif was common Jewish property, the inscribed-stele image appears only in the Three Steles, and the Sethian reworking inverts the legend's point (a saving gnosis revealed from above, not astronomy discovered by virtue) even as it keeps the frame.16
The rival, impious aetiology — astronomy taught by the fallen angels — is set out in 1 Enoch 8:3 (Kokabel "the constellations," Baraqijal "astrology") and pressed by Tatian, Address to the Greeks 8–9, and Tertullian, On Idolatry 9; it is weighed on the argument page Did the fallen angels teach astrology? (assessment: contested). See the Astrology and the Stars timeline. Not every later reader kept the two origins apart: the Alexandrian chronographer Panodorus (c. AD 400), preserved by George Syncellus, made the Watchers the real originators of antediluvian astronomy and — on the reading of his modern editors — likely identified them with the Sethites themselves, fusing the pious and impious lines this legend holds apart (weighed on the pious-inversion argument's reception note). Nor are the Fathers wholly silent on the survival device itself: John Cassian, Conference 8.21 (c. 435), gives its impious form — Ham, "who had been taught these superstitions and wicked and profane arts," knowing "he could not possibly bring any handbook on these subjects into the ark," "inscribed these nefarious arts and profane devices on plates of various metals which could not be destroyed by the flood of waters, and on hard rocks," and after the Flood "hunted for them" (ccel.org). That Christian, patristic realization of the motif — paired in the same chapter with a pure Sethite transmission of the knowledge — is weighed on the pious-inversion argument and set out on Cassian's Nephilim page. ↩
On the knowledge-survives-the-Flood motif see The Historicity of Noah's Flood; on Enoch the seventh from Adam as an antediluvian sage see The Sons of God and the Nephilim (and its argument The Sumerian King List ≅ Enoch). ↩
Philo of Alexandria, De Posteritate Caini (On the Posterity of Cain and His Exile) 40–42, trans. C. D. Yonge, earlyjewishwritings.com: "…those who love virtue and piety, they may be classed under Seth as the author of their race." The virtuous line "enlarged" through Noah, Abraham, and Moses is at §§170–174 of the same work. Philo (early 1st c., a generation before Josephus) allegorizes Seth as founder of the God-loving race but nowhere mentions pillars, astronomy, or the preservation of antediluvian knowledge through the Flood — that knowledge-preserving motif is unique to Josephus, Antiquities I.2.3. He therefore attests the virtuous-Seth theme the legend presupposes, not the pillars legend, and is not slotted as a witness to it here. ↩
Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews I.2.3 (c. AD 93–94), trans. William Whiston, in the chapter "Concerning the Posterity of Adam, and the Ten Generations from Him to the Deluge." gutenberg.org: "They also were the inventors of that peculiar sort of wisdom which is concerned with the heavenly bodies, and their order… they made two pillars, the one of brick, the other of stone… Now this remains in the land of Siriad to this day." Full treatment on the detail page, Josephus on the Pillars of Seth. ↩
Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews I.3.1, sacred-texts.com: "For many angels of God accompanied with women, and begat sons that proved unjust… the Grecians call giants." Treated on Josephus on the Nephilim. ↩
Isidore of Seville, Chronica (Chronicon) §§4–5 (first recension c. 615, revised c. 626), trans. Kenneth B. Wolf, tertullian.org: "In these times, as Josephus reports, some men… inscribed their discoveries on two columns made of brick and stone… Their stone columns are reported to have withstood the flood and remain in Syria to this very day"; the adjacent §4 credits the Cainite "Jubal, from the line of Cain," with music. Full treatment on the detail page, Isidore of Seville on the Pillars of Seth, which also records the legend's absence from the Etymologies (only the Cainite-music note III.16.1, Latin Library). Latin: Mommsen, MGH AA XI; PL 83, cols. 1017–1058. ↩
George Syncellus (Synkellos), Ecloga Chronographica / Chronography (c. 810). For the Manethonian Book of Sothis preface he alone preserves — sacred antediluvian knowledge inscribed "upon the columns set up in the Seriadic land, by Thoth, the first Hermes," re-transcribed after the deluge — see W. G. Waddell, Manetho (Loeb, 1940), LacusCurtius, and the critical translation in William Adler & Paul Tuffin, The Chronography of George Synkellos (Oxford, 2002), Bryn Mawr review; also Jason Colavito, "The Three Hermeses". For the Berossus / Sippar parallel he likewise transmits, see livius.org (Berossus). That the same Byzantine chronographic tradition preserved the pious Sethite notices (Seth naming the planets, raising the two pillars): M. R. James, The Lost Apocrypha of the Old Testament (1920), "Seth," wikisource.org. Full treatment on the detail page, George Syncellus on the Pillars of Seth; his transmission of the impious Watchers mirror is on his Nephilim page. ↩
George Kedrenos (Cedrenus), Compendium Historiarum / Synopsis Historion (c. 1050), on Seth: quoted and translated in M. R. James, The Lost Apocrypha of the Old Testament (1920), "Seth," from Migne Patrologia Graeca 121, col. 8 — "Seth gave names to the seven planets, and comprehended the lore of the movements of the heavens. He also prepared two pillars, one of stone and one of brick, and wrote these things upon them… He also devised the Hebrew letters" (wikisource.org). Greek/Latin: ed. Immanuel Bekker (Bonn CSHB, 1838–39), archive.org. Kedrenos keeps the pillars with Seth where the Latin Comestor moves them to the Cainite Jubal. Full treatment: George Kedrenos (Cedrenus) on the Pillars of Seth. ⚠ Greek/Latin cited from these published editions, not independently collated. ↩
Peter Comestor, Historia Scholastica, Liber Genesis, "De Iubal et Tubalcain" (c. 1169–1173), la.wikisource.org (standard cite PL 198 col. 1079; crit. ed. A. Sylwan, CCCM 191): "…scripsit eam in duabus columnis, in qualibet totam, ut dicit Josephus, una marmorea, altera latericia, quarum altera non diluetur diluvio, altera non solveretur incendio." Comestor cites Josephus yet assigns the pillars to the Cainite Jubal, following Isidore. Full treatment: Peter Comestor on the Pillars of Seth. ↩
Ranulf Higden, Polychronicon, Book II, with John Trevisa's 1387 translation, ed. Churchill Babington (Rolls Series 41), vol. II, p. 233, archive.org: marginal rubric "De duabus columnis contra diluvium et ignem," Latin "His temporibus scientes homines… scripserunt in duabus columnis, lapidea et lateritia"; Trevisa, "þey closede hem in tweie greet pileres i-made of marbyl and of brend tyle." MSS C/D also splice Comestor's Cainite version into the Jubal chapter (editor's apparatus, note to p. 232). Full treatment: Ranulf Higden on the Pillars of Seth. ↩
Argument page: Is Josephus's pillars-of-Seth report historical? (assessment: contested). Weighs William Whiston's two objections to Antiquities I.2.3 (ccel.org) — the Seth↔Sesostris conflation and the survival-through-the-Flood objection — against the Babylonian (Berossus) and Egyptian (Manetho / Hermetic Book of Sothis) parallels and the reading of Seiris as Egypt. ↩
Argument page: Is the pillars-of-Seth legend a displaced Enoch tradition? (assessment: plausible). Weighs Andrei Orlov's observation that Josephus's Sethite "two stelae" story carries roles Jewish lore gives to Enoch (marquette.edu/maqom) — with Jubilees 4:17, the 2nd-c.-BC Samaritan Pseudo-Eupolemus crediting Enoch with the discovery of astrology (Eusebius, Praeparatio Evangelica 9.17), the Astronomical Book of 1 Enoch 72–82, and the two-media / fire-and-water survival device told of Enoch in the Palaea Historica — against an independently old virtuous-Seth theme (Philo), the Egyptian/Babylonian stele analogues, and the lateness of a named "pillars of Enoch." ↩
Argument page: Is the fire-and-water double-destruction an ancient tradition? (assessment: sound). Weighs William Whiston's note on Antiquities I.2.3 (ccel.org) that the fire-and-water expectation is "an ancient tradition, which all antiquity witnesses," against the independent attestation in Plato, Timaeus 22c–23c (Perseus), Berossus via Seneca, Naturales Quaestiones 3.29 (the great-year ekpyrosis/kataklysmos cycle), and the first-century Life of Adam and Eve 49–50 (ccel.org), whose Seth-and-two-tablets story against judgment "first by water and second by fire" is the closest parallel to Josephus. The framing is sound; the pillar's survival (contested) and Adam-as-prophet (narrative dress) are held separate. ↩
Argument page: Is the pillars-of-Seth legend the pious inversion of the Watchers' antediluvian astrology? (assessment: plausible). Weighs the survival-on-stone mirror in Jubilees 8:2–4 (pseudepigrapha.com) — the Watchers' illicit astronomy recovered by the sinning second Cainan — against Josephus's pious Sethite pillars, noting that the impious telling (Jubilees, 2nd c. BC) predates Josephus by roughly two centuries: Nadav Sharon, "Antediluvian Knowledge," TheTorah.com (2018), calls it "the earliest reference to the survival of antediluvian knowledge after the flood." The descriptive parallel is sound; the derivation (a pious inversion of Cainan) is underdetermined, as with the Enochic-displacement thesis. The medieval Sefer ha-Yashar (Book of Jasher) ch. 2 (wikisource.org) collapses the two Cainans into one stone-inscribing sage. ↩
Argument page: Is the Surid pyramid-legend a cognate of the Sethite antediluvian-pillars tradition? (assessment: sound). Weighs the medieval Arab-Coptic legend of King Surid ibn Salhouk — best known from al-Maqrizi (d. 1442) and the pseudo-Masudi Akhbār al-zamān, with the earliest antediluvian-preservation frame in al-Masudi's Meadows of Gold (c. AD 947–956) — against Josephus's Sethite pillars: the shared skeleton, the builder's equation with Hermes / Idris / Enoch, and the descent of the name "Surid" from Manetho's Souphis (Khufu) make it a genuine cognate (al-Maqrizi trans. in Jason Colavito, "Al-Maqrizi on the Pyramids"; Martyn Smith, "Pyramids in the Medieval Islamic Landscape," JARCE 43 [2007], 1–14). Sound as a cognate claim; a direct descent from Josephus is conjectural. ↩
Argument page: Is the Sethian-Gnostic Seth tradition a cognate of the antediluvian-pillars legend? (assessment: sound). Weighs the 2nd–3rd-century Sethian corpus — the Apocalypse of Adam (trans. G. W. MacRae, earlychristianwritings.com), the Gospel of the Egyptians / Holy Book of the Great Invisible Spirit (trans. Böhlig & Wisse, earlychristianwritings.com), and the Three Steles of Seth — against Josephus's pillars: John D. Turner ties the three inscribed steles to the two stone-and-brick tablets "on which Seth was said to have preserved from destruction by flood or fire the vast sum of astrological lore… (cf. Josephus Jewish Antiquities 1.67.1–71.5)" (intro to The Three Steles of Seth, in M. Meyer, ed., The Nag Hammadi Scriptures [HarperOne, 2007], p. 523; earlychristianwritings.com). Sound as a cognate/reception claim; a direct textual dependence on Josephus is conjectural. ↩