Type: supporting argument (off-timeline) · Assessment: plausible — the spine is well-grounded (the angelic reading is the older one; a real, early rabbinic turn against it is documented; the Watchers tradition genuinely diverged between waning Judaism and flourishing Christianity; and the "too-Christian" motive has an ancient witness in Tertullian). But De Young's compressed formulation overstates and mislabels: the rabbinic reading was "sons of judges/nobles," not "sons of Seth"; the explicitly Sethite reading is first attested in a Christian writer (Julius Africanus); the "Africanus → Ephrem → Augustine" pipeline is undocumented; and the mono-causal "reaction against Christianity" is one contested strand of a multi-causal, never-total process · advanced by Fr. Stephen De Young
Related arguments: the Sethite reading — see also Augustine's case · Chrysostom's authorship
Here the claim is historiographical: where did the Sethite reading come from, and why? Per the steelman rule, the assessment tracks the strongest form of the thesis, not only the proponent's wording of it.
the Jewish community repudiated that [the Enochic literature] and came up with what's called the Sethite hypothesis sometimes in the literature, that it's the line of Seth and the line of Cain. This gets adopted by Church Fathers.
— Fr. Stephen De Young, Lord of Spirits, "Land of Giants."1 The thesis has three moving parts: (1) the angelic/Enochic reading is the original; (2) the rival Sethite reading is a later Rabbinic-Jewish invention, a repudiation prompted by the Jews' rejection of the (now Christian-coded) Enochic books as "too Christian"; and (3) it then crossed into Christianity — De Young dates the Christian Sethite reading to Julius Africanus first, then Ephrem and Augustine (late 4th/early 5th c.), holding that the later Fathers rejected a misunderstanding rather than the ancient claim.1
De Young (with Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick) is the popular voice; behind the academic shape of the claim stands real scholarship on the reception of Genesis 6 and of 1 Enoch — above all Philip S. Alexander's "The Targumim and Early Exegesis of 'Sons of God' in Genesis 6" (JJS 1972) and Annette Yoshiko Reed's Fallen Angels and the History of Judaism and Christianity (2005). The thesis is partly downstream of that scholarship and partly a compression of it; the task here is to separate what the sources support from what the compression adds.
The angelic reading is the older one. That the supernatural/angelic reading is the earliest and was once dominant is not seriously disputed: it is the reading of 1 Enoch, Jubilees, the Septuagint, Philo, and Josephus, and of the whole ante-Nicene Church. Alexander dates the angelic reading as effectively unanimous until the mid-second century, when Jewish exegesis began exchanging it for a human reading.2
There is a real, early rabbinic turn against it. The locus classicus is Genesis Rabbah 26:5, where the mid-second-century Tanna R. Simeon b. Yohai reads bənê hā-ʾĕlōhîm as "sons of judges" and curses the angelic reading outright:
Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai called them … "the children of judges." Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai used to curse anyone who would call them … "children of God."
— Bereshit Rabbah 26:5, Sefaria.3 The Aramaic Targumim corroborate the shift: Onqelos and Pseudo-Jonathan render "sons of the great ones / nobles," Neofiti "sons of the judges." So a deliberate Jewish move away from the angelic reading, in the second century, is solid ground — and is precisely what gives De Young's claim its spine.
The Enochic literature really did diverge between the two communities. Reed's monograph traces the Book of the Watchers from its wide pre-rabbinic Jewish influence, through its rejection by the rabbinic movement and its adoption by early Christians, to its later Christian marginalization and loss to the West — a genuine "parting of the ways" over this very tradition.4
The "too-Christian" motive has an ancient witness. De Young's most arresting sub-claim — that the Jews repudiated Enoch because it had become Christian property — is not invented. Tertullian (c. 200) says exactly this of the book's Jewish rejection:
By the Jews it may now seem to have been rejected for that (very) reason, just like all the other (portions) nearly which tell of Christ.
— Tertullian, On the Apparel of Women I.3, newadvent.org.5 So one strand of the thesis — Jewish rejection of 1 Enoch, motivated partly by its Christian use — has a named second-century proponent among the witnesses surveyed here.
What holds. The historical instinct is sounder than a sceptic might expect. The angelic reading is the original; the first datable rejection of it is Jewish and second-century (R. Simeon b. Yohai); the Enochic corpus did split between the traditions; and the "too-Christian" motive is at least as old as Tertullian. Strip the overstatement and a real, defensible historiographical observation remains: the abandonment of the angelic reading began on the Jewish side, and was bound up with the increasingly Christian career of 1 Enoch.
What is overstated or imprecise. Three steps do not survive contact with the sources.
"Sethite" is the wrong label for the rabbinic reading. The reading the rabbis produced is "sons of judges / nobles / the great ones" — a reading about social rank, exploiting the double sense of Hebrew ʾĕlōhîm ("God" / "judge").3 It is not the genealogical Seth-vs.-Cain reading. The explicitly Sethite reading is first attested not in a rabbi but in a Christian writer, Julius Africanus (c. 240): "the descendants of Seth are called the sons of God … the descendants of Cain are named the seed of men."6 So De Young's sentence — "the Jewish community … came up with … the Sethite hypothesis … [which] gets adopted by Church Fathers" — miscredits authorship: the Jews came up with the judges/nobles reading; Christians came up with the Sethite reading. (Possible earlier Jewish or Qumran roots for a Seth reading are floated in the literature but are contested and thin; they do not establish a rabbinic "Sethite hypothesis" handed to the Fathers.)
The "Africanus → Ephrem → Augustine" pipeline is undocumented. These are better read as three largely independent Christian developments than as one chain carrying a borrowed rabbinic doctrine. Africanus (Greek, c. 240) states the Sethite reading as one option while still recording the angelic view; his likeliest motive is intra-Christian apologetics — pagan critics such as Celsus (and later Julian) mocked the crude angel-breeding myth, and the Sethite reading offered less exposed ground.7 Ephrem (Syriac, c. 363) develops Seth-vs.-Cain within the Syriac exegetical tradition (the milieu of the Cave of Treasures, with its two mountains and two lineages), not demonstrably from Africanus. And Augustine (c. 420) builds the Sethite reading out of the canonical Genesis text — the LXX "sons of God / angels of God" read of Seth's line, with Psalm 82 — not from Ephrem (whom he is unlikely to have read) and certainly not from a rabbinic source he names. That is established on the companion Augustine's case page. A Jewish-to- Christian transmission "via" these three is asserted, not shown.
The mono-causal "reaction against Christianity" overstates a multi-causal, never-total process. Two problems. First, chronology: R. Simeon b. Yohai's anti-angelic curse is mid-second century — when the Christian side was still overwhelmingly angelic (Justin, Athenagoras, Irenaeus, Tertullian) and the Christian Sethite reading did not yet exist (Africanus, c. 240). The Jewish turn is therefore roughly contemporary with, or earlier than, the moment when Enoch became distinctively "Christian property," so reading it as a downstream reaction to Christian appropriation is, at best, only part of the story. Second, the leading scholarship makes the rabbinic marginalization multi-causal: Reed situates it in post-70 boundary-drawing and identity formation, notes that the Jewish and Christian rejections ran on different timelines, and stresses that the angelic myth was never fully purged — it survives in Targum Pseudo-Jonathan (Shemḥazai and Azael), surfaces in the Talmud (Uzza and Azael), and re-emerges in post-Talmudic mysticism.4 Alongside this runs the powerful internal motive Alan Segal documents: rabbinic anxiety over exalted, semi-divine angelic figures ("two powers in heaven"), with the exalted Enoch-Metatron a flashpoint — a reason to suppress Enochic traditions that owes nothing to Christianity in particular.8 Tertullian's "too-Christian" remark is thus one ancient explanation, not the settled mechanism, and "the Jewish community repudiated that" flattens a partial, reversible shift into a clean repudiation.
Plausible. The thesis rests on a real and defensible core: the angelic reading is the original; the earliest rejection of it is Jewish and second-century (R. Simeon b. Yohai, Gen. Rabbah 26:5); the Enochic tradition genuinely diverged between the two communities (Reed); and the "too-Christian" motive has an ancient witness (Tertullian). De Young is not improvising a polemical just-so story — the spine is grounded in the standard scholarship. But the compression overstates and mislabels at three joints, and these should be flagged on De Young's page: (a) the rabbinic reading is "sons of judges/nobles," not "sons of Seth," so the Jews did not author "the Sethite hypothesis" — a Christian, Julius Africanus, did; (b) the "Africanus → Ephrem → Augustine" hand-off is presented as a transmission line but is really three independent Christian developments, with Augustine building the reading from the canonical text; and (c) "the Jewish community repudiated that [because it was too Christian]" reduces a multi-causal (boundary-drawing; "two powers"/Metatron anxiety; intra-Christian anti-pagan apologetics on the Christian side) and incomplete process (the angelic myth persisted and revived in Judaism) to a single, completed anti-Christian reflex. The direction of travel De Young points to is real; the tidy mechanism and the "Sethite" label are not.
Fr. Stephen De Young & Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick, Lord of Spirits, "Land of Giants," Ancient Faith Ministries, ancientfaith.com — "the Jewish community repudiated that and came up with what's called the Sethite hypothesis sometimes in the literature, that it's the line of Seth and the line of Cain. This gets adopted by Church Fathers." De Young's dating of the Christian Sethite reading (Julius Africanus first, then Ephrem and Augustine, late 4th/early 5th c.) and the "rejected a misunderstanding" claim are documented on De Young on the Nephilim. ↩↩
Philip S. Alexander, "The Targumim and Early Exegesis of 'Sons of God' in Genesis 6," Journal of Jewish Studies 23 (1972): 60–71 — the angelic ("sons of God = angels") reading is effectively unanimous in the ancient world until the mid-second century AD, when Jewish exegesis exchanges it for a human "mighty ones / judges / rulers" reading. Cf. L. R. Wickham, "The Sons of God and the Daughters of Men: Genesis VI 2 in Early Christian Exegesis," OTS 19 (1974): 135–47; and the witnesses gathered on the timeline (1 Enoch, LXX, Jubilees, Philo, Josephus). ↩
Bereshit (Genesis) Rabbah 26:5, sefaria.org — "Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai called them … 'the children of judges.' Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai used to curse anyone who would call them … 'children of God'" (the curse turns on the Aramaic Elohaya meaning only "God," not also "judge"). The Targumim render the human reading: Onqelos and Pseudo-Jonathan "sons of the great ones / nobles," Neofiti "sons of the judges." See P. S. Alexander, JJS 23 (1972). ↩↩
Annette Yoshiko Reed, Fallen Angels and the History of Judaism and Christianity: The Reception of Enochic Literature (Cambridge UP, 2005), archive.org, esp. ch. 4 ("The parting of the ways? Enoch and the Fallen Angels in Rabbinic Judaism and Early Christianity") and ch. 7 (the re-emergence of the fallen-angels myth in post-Talmudic Judaism). Reed traces the Book of the Watchers from wide pre-rabbinic Jewish influence, through rabbinic rejection and Christian adoption, to later Christian marginalization — and explicitly complicates a mono-causal "anti-Christian" reading: the Jewish and Christian rejections run on different timelines (the rabbinic sharper and earlier, the Christian more gradual), the move belongs to post-70 boundary-drawing, and the angelic myth survives (Targum Pseudo-Jonathan's Shemḥazai/Azael; the Talmud's Uzza/Azael) and revives in later mysticism. ↩↩
Tertullian, On the Apparel of Women I.3, newadvent.org (ANF, trans. S. Thelwall) — having defended 1 Enoch as "divinely inspired" and surviving the Flood through Noah, Tertullian explains its Jewish rejection: "By the Jews it may now seem to have been rejected for that (very) reason, just like all the other (portions) nearly which tell of Christ … To these considerations is added the fact that Enoch possesses a testimony in the Apostle Jude." See Tertullian on the Nephilim and the canonicity of 1 Enoch page. ↩
Julius Africanus, Chronography, Fragment 2 (as quoted by George Syncellus), ccel.org — "the descendants of Seth are called the sons of God … the descendants of Cain are named the seed of men"; Africanus also records the angelic view as the alternative. He is widely credited as the first church father to articulate the Sethite reading (so e.g. surveys of Gen 6 exegesis). See Julius Africanus on the Nephilim. ↩
On the apologetic pressure behind the Christian abandonment of the angelic reading: Celsus (2nd c.) and later the emperor Julian ridiculed the angel–human breeding myth, and Christian exegetes increasingly preferred the less-exposed Sethite ground — a motive internal to the Christian–pagan debate, distinct from any borrowing from rabbinic Judaism. On Augustine's derivation of the Sethite reading from the canonical text (LXX "sons of God / angels of God" + Ps 82), not from Enoch's exclusion or a named Jewish source, see the argument page Does Augustine's case against the angelic reading hold? (assessment: sound). ↩
Alan F. Segal, Two Powers in Heaven: Early Rabbinic Reports about Christianity and Gnosticism (Leiden: Brill, 1977), archive.org — the rabbinic polemic against "two powers in heaven" (shtei rashuyyot ba-shamayim) targets exalted, semi-divine figures, with the transformed Enoch-Metatron ("the lesser YHWH," b. Ḥagigah 15a) a flashpoint. This supplies an internal-theological motive for suppressing Enochic traditions — the protection of strict monotheism — that is not reducible to anti-Christian reaction, though it overlaps with it. ↩